Green Energy Suppliers in France

One of the requirements of RT2012 is that all new builds must include a solar-power element. This can mean investing in micro-generation system for your own land or property, choosing a low-carbon, low-energy heat source as your main form or energy. But there is also a third option, which is great for those of us who are on tight budgets. That option is to commit to using an energy supplier that obtains at least 50% of their energy from green sources (solar, wind, water, etc.)

So how to find these? 

There’s quite a list in this article here but also this recent article which gives an overview of Greenpeace’s assessment of the main suppliers in France. Looking at the two lists I would think that you could pass RT2012 by signing up for EDF’s green tariff but according to Greenpeace you’re probably being greenwashed and unlikely to be actually buying energy generated from renewable and non-polluting sources.

One of the companies I lik the look of is https://www.ilek.fr. There’s also https://www.enercoop.fr, which also has non-capitalist credentials. Enercoop has a similar feel to Green Energy, which is the company we used in the UK and is also a cooperative. 

You might be thinking well, how green is it really to be buying energy from a company, but this recent article from the Centre for Alternative Technology suggests that connecting to the grid is a better solution than going off grid. It’s worth remembering that all technology has an environmental cost. Also, if you are generating energy that you are contributing to the total amount of green energy that is available for sale to others who perhaps don’t have the means to invest in solutions themselves. If green electricity is flowing in, the demand that needs to be met by dirty energy (and in that I include nuclear) is reduced. Which also feeds into this article about how being green has become something we do (and get to feel smug about) on an individual level when really collective action is needed.

There’s more info on packages with suppliers for auto-consommation (self-generation) here

Ilek seem to have a comprehensive calculator on their site, giving info on expected payback times and also taking government grants into account.

RT2012 Recommended Boilers (Thermo Dynamic)

For RT2012 one of the ways around having to have expensive solar solutions is to fit a thermodynamic boiler.

This one on Mano Mano is 1.5k euros and may be what we need. 

According to one green energy site they reduce the annual cost of heating water from 350 to 80 euros for a 4-person house.

https://www.manomano.fr/chauffe-eau-thermodynamique/aeromax-4-vs-270-l-thermor-296061-519359?model_id=519359


This comes on the list under ventilation…

This might be one? https://www.atlantic-climatisation-ventilation.fr/ventilation/chauffe-eau-thermodynamique-sur-air-extrait/aquacosy-av/aquacosy-av-100l-et-200l
2035 euro


How thermodynamic water heaters work

RT2012 recommended wood burners

Rika Impera XL http://www.rika.at/fr/impera/
88% efficient
https://www.debonspoeles.fr/produits/poeles-a-bois-intelligent-rika/impera-xl/
4-8kW
6380 euro


Rika Imposa http://www.rika.at/fr/imposa/
https://www.debonspoeles.fr/produits/poeles-a-bois-intelligent-rika/poele-a-bois-imposa/ 
86% efficient
5-10kW
4380 euro


Rika Jazz https://www.debonspoeles.fr/produits/poeles-a-bois-intelligent-rika/poele-a-bois-jazz/
83.1% efficient
3.5 to 7 kW
4400 euro


Rika Twist https://www.debonspoeles.fr/produits/poeles-a-bois-intelligent-rika/poele-a-bois-twist/
79.3% efficient
4-8kW
3552 euro


Invicta Odysee http://www.1poelepascher.com/fr/45-poele-a-bois-odyssee-6163-44-de-invicta-pas-cher-3244336163443.html
80%
50cm logs
raccordement direct d’un conduit pour l’arrivée d’air frais extérieur
12kW
http://www.monpoele.com/poele-a-bois-odyssee-975.html 1475 euro

Invicta Onyx (it’s an inset) https://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/produits/poele-a-bois-invicta-cheminee-onyx-6120-46-12-kw-e48236
76%
12KW
71cm logs
2600 euro


Invicta Pharos https://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/produits/poele-a-bois-pharos-invicta-12-kw-e1501559196
12kW
No exterior air
40cm logs
1599 euro


Deville Emeraude http://www.carre-discount.com/poeles-a-bois/poele-a-bois-deville-emeraude-noir-7-kw
80.2%
7kW
36cm logs
1389 euro


Deville India http://www.placeduchauffage.fr/poeles/519-poele-a-bois-deville-l-india-metal-brosse-9kw-buches-55cm-c07782-expo-3101790040607.html
81%
9kW
exterior air I think
979 euro


Deville Grand Safir https://www.deville.fr/fr/nos-produits/les-poeles-a-bois-buches/grand-saphir-c077ah
81%
50 cm logs
9kW
1176 euro


Godin Galatea https://www.poeleetambiance.com/poeles/poeles-bois-poele-et-ambiance-valence/poeles-bois-godin-valence/721-poele-a-bois-bbc-godin-galatea.html
7kW
33 cm logs
2161 euro


Jotul F162 (F160) http://www.equip-habitat.com/chauffage-poeles-a-bois-tout-fontejotul-f-162,50-799.htm
83%
33 cm
9kW
1539 euro


Jotul F480 https://hagleystoves.co.uk/product/jotul-f480-series/
75%
30 cm logs
10kW


JØTUL F 373 ADVANCE https://jotul.com/fr/produits/poeles-et-inserts-a-bois/poeles-a-bois/jotul-f-370-advance-series/jotul-f-373-advance#technical-area
78%
33cm logs
10kW
2580 euro


JØTUL F 520 https://jotul.com/fr/produits/poeles-et-inserts-a-bois/poeles-a-bois/jotul-f-520
77%
50cm logs
12kW

http://www.firesidestore.co.uk/jotul-f520.html
GBP 2699


Palazzetti Irene https://www.poeleetambiance.com/poeles/poeles-bois-poele-et-ambiance-valence/poele-bois-palazzetti-pas-cher-prix-poele-fonte/2346-poele-a-bois-palazzetti-irene.html
74.9%
10kW
3179 euro


Supra Ontario 4 https://www.amazon.fr/Supra-Ontario-4-01-Puissance-Couleur/dp/B0069X456W
33cm
8kW
2459 euro


Supra Quattro https://www.cdiscount.com/bricolage/chauffage/supra-quattro-poele-a-bois-8-kw/f-16612-supra117300.html
8kW
1617 euro


SUPRA Ulysse https://www.leroymerlin.fr/v3/p/produits/poele-a-bois-supra-ulysse-10-kw-e1401181146
10kW
77%
50cm
No exterior
1199 euro


MCZ Thor (all the oxygen used for combustion is taken outside) http://www.atoutflam.com/chauffage_bois_poele-a-buchemcz-thor-5-3086.html
83%
7.2kW


MCZ Chari (all the oxygen used for combustion is taken outside)  https://www.poelesabois.com/se-faire-aider/choisir-son-poele/poele-buches,260,MCZ,Chari.php
78%
9kW
1300 -> 1800 euro


MCZ Bahr https://www.mcz.it/fr/produits/bahr/
84.7%
7kW
1300 euro (estimated)


MCZ Nogal https://www.mcz.it/fr/produits/nogal/
85%
7kW

Messages Sent

24/10/18 – Message sent to http://mmu34.eklablog.com via their contact form.

I am planning a GREB house and considering how do to the foundations. I am interested in the method you chose and also the products you used. What is the make of the polystyrene blocks? I have tried to find them using the internet but no luck. Do you find the floor is well insulated?